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This is brilliant!

I would add an ethics layer. Our economy is completely unethical. Wall Street is predatory, marketing is meaningless, and the biowarfare industrial complex and the military industrial complex are actively killing people. Even if NEETs could fit into mainstream society they would refuse to because it is so deeply immoral.

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I have been raving for years against the epidemic of fake genius ditzy valley-girl/boy whores from rich families getting jobs over talented autistics. I predicted it would result in the collapse of society and I turned out to be right sooner than expected. I mean these people must have cheated their way through medical school or something if they think that a Pseudouridine substituted mRNA injection is safe. I’m no expert in immunology and even I can tell that such a thing is going to cause immune tolerance and make COVID worse! But these bubble gum brained bimbos don’t even have the level of intuitive thinking to visualize that!

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Our current neoliberal economy will make this segment of the economy much larger in years to come.

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The white pill though is that intelligent but anti-social people can bail out to very rural areas which are pleasant to live in and have cheap real estate. Having wireless broadband, and a paid off house and car is the best revenge against a society gone wrong. Very smart people will find a way whether it's remote work, or an independent entrepreneurial or self employed artisan gig.

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Some might be able to do this but likely a minority. Not everyone can relocate to a remote rural area or run their own business.

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Meh, people don't give themselves enough credit, in fact just about anyone can do all those things, I am living proof.

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I’m apart of that class as my father wasted his inheritance

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This is an excellent article, very interesting. Love this statement - 'The more common archetype for success, is the pro-social extrovert.' Absolutely correct. While high IQ and conscientiousness are key to economic success, at the end of the day the MOST successful are high energy extroverts. In my experience.

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It's salesmen. They always make the most. People who's personality will alow them to say and do things to make a sale will always do best. Doesn't matter what industry. I've worked 15yrs in a 10x10 lab w/ no windows because I can't smile and say stupid shit on command.

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Correct.

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"Even DSA, seems to be made up of a lot of failed strivers of the professional managerial class rather than the working class."

I'm sure that's true. My very limited experience with the DSA dates back to the late 80s/early 90s...when they were a group consisting, it seemed, almost entirely of (fellow) White guys, all from families with way more money than mine. And one of their main interests, in the sense that it was one of the things you'd invariably discuss if you met them with them, was to further strengthen so-called "affirmative action". It was like joining a group for the express purpose of militating against my ever making any economic gains. It was absurd. Those guys could all just live off their parents' money (or so they imagined...there were probably some rude awakenings in store for a few of those fellows).

This was basically in the post-Dukakis/pre-Clinton interregnum, when the neolibs were replacing the left in all institutions. Even ones that literally had "Socialist" in the name. It was still DLC, all the way down.

Although DSA guys did oppose NAFTA at that time, to their credit.

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White and Asian kids from rich families (oh and Nigerian immigrants) get the most affirmative action. They win all the science fairs by having Dr. Mommy and Daddy do their science fair project. I literally got kicked out of a college and thrown in the nuthouse in part for ranting about how these people are FRAUDS and parasitically sucking funds and attention away from those that really need and deserve them! A wasted investment! These people have the creative mind of a lobotomized dementia patient on Zoloft! That’s right, even the rare smart poor Black person doesn’t get anything, particularly if autistic; the affirmative action goes to the well-groomed socially polished probably half-White one from an upper-middle-class family.

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Intelligence is mostly heritable so the idea that we should be scouring the dregs of the inner city ghettos or flyover country for the rare intellectually gifted poor people rather than letting the kids with “Dr. Mommy” for parents get those resources is ridiculous. It’s much easier to just make the economic and social landscape easy for high skilled foreigners (of which there are far more in the world than within Americas borders) to get in and assimilate rather than trying to implement some far fetched “Patronage for NEETs” welfare scheme.

As much as it may be uncomfortable to admit. Those Rich white kids, Asians, and African immigrants are a consistent and low cost source of high biological quality that the Western world could be exploiting.

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Plenty Linkola what does that mean? Linkola was a doomer and limited resources guy.

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As much as I know this is true, being a product of a eugenics experiment where my mom picked my dad to have babies with due to the prevalence of freakishly high IQs in his family, I have to point out that there is a horseshoe effect to the bell curve. My uncle has an IQ of 180-190 and last I checked he was an acid head and a crazy cat lady... erm, man living in a trailer on his sister’s property. Due to lack of social skills I t’s common for the genes of very high IQ people to end up in poverty and surrounded by stupid people who think they’re just crazy or drug addicted. In fact crazy and drug addicted is what happens to them when they don’t have a way out. The ones that succeed tend to be of a slightly above midwit intellect and it tends to get even more diluted in the children if they have a spouse who is more midwit than them. The child needs to be only slightly above midwit to succeed. And these days I wouldn’t doubt if a slightly below midwit child succeeded. My mom had an IQ of 140 and a dad who was a millionaire from being president of a drug store chain, and my dad had an IQ of 160 and had a mom who was a research scientist at a university who started out as a war bride from England and came here to get an education while raising her family. Both fell off the social ladder and lost me to the foster care system where I ended up being used as a slave by white trash with double digit IQs. I know my story must be rare but I happen to know other similarly intelligent people who fell off the social ladder.

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You said a mouthful there.

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"A horseshoe effect to the Bell Curve", well said. People often talk about the diminishing returns and relationship between cognitive talent vs social talent but up to now I had never seen it described so succinctly.

What was the mechanism for you parents falling off the social ladder exactly. Forgive such a personal question but I am genuinely curious because I did not know that the phenomenon of such smart people ending up unsuccessful was very common for middle class Americans.

I am interested because your story is likely rare for a 1st world North American...but on a global scale is quite common. In fact during the 20th century we saw this dynamic you described, where undeserving double digit IQ people are given institutionally sanctioned control over their more cognitively gifted peers, play out at scale all over the developing world & particularly in areas where communist ideas took root. In places like China, EastBloc Europe & Colonial africa, entire swathes of the intellectual class(high-iq, low-socialization) were purged & supplanted by dull but loyal peasant regime supporters(low-iq, high-socialization) if they were unable to escape; Many of the asian, white(typically central/east European or jewish heritage) or nigerian immigrant kids you were referring to in your first post are probably the grandkids/great grandkids of these people who fled the fallout of Communism/post-colonialism. And this is usually a simple enough explanation for why certain immigrant groups in America tend to be where they are in the social ladder.

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I have a question for you and others that's completely unrelated to this thread and 99% unrelated to your post: do you think morality is real or is it just "socialisation"?

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Well to start with both of them were alcoholics. My mom apparently had bipolar disorder and/or panic disorder. She did really well in college in the 70s and majored in political science although she was originally going to major in chemistry and took almost enough classes for a double major but then a psychic told her that she would be a successful lawyer for the Hollywood elite or something (imagine that... we would’ve been the Kardashians) so she switched majors but she never bothered to got to law school for some reason... well there was that one Jewish professor that gave her a lower mark than deserved for supporting the Palestinians in her paper... she said that she wanted to get a government job but they wouldn’t hire her because she was White. I mean fair enough but they rolled back much of the extremity of affirmative action during the Reagan administration, why didn’t she try for such a job then? Seems like she had an impulsive personality disorder, unable to stick to a plan for long... and then in her early 30s she all of a sudden decided she wanted to have a baby. And she was really into bizarre men which is how she met my dad - actually she met my uncle first - and she had decided that she was going to be a welfare queen... never married my dad though, married an abusive navy guy who moved us to Hawaii and Florida and she had a job at a bank for a while in Florida but then my sister and I ended up in foster care and after nearly a year we got sent back to California to live with our dad. My mom had gotten into jail for drunk driving and shit like that... never divorced the stepdad because she wanted to keep his military medical insurance... and eventually she decided she was going to work the system to take care of her for the rest of her life. She got cervical cancer and survived but I wasn’t around at that time. And then right after I reunited with the family and went to live with my dad she moved up to Oregon to live near her dad. She was writing an autobiography before her death (in 2018, sort of mysterious... she was smearing shit on the walls and then became a vegetable, it was right before Christmas too and she was going to come visit) but the book seems to have disappeared from her computer - she was never good with technology, alcohol and meds seem to have fried her brain.

Now as for my dad... I think his mother was a rather cold parent, being a scientist and all, even a rather crazy one who believed in UFOs, and his father, well...molested his sister so that tells you what kind of parent he was (son of a Freemason apparently... wonder if that’s a normal thing among them?) So he never graduated high school so although he could have become a brilliant engineer he only worked as a car mechanic. Got a GED eventually. Used to visit him every Sunday. He lived for free with his mom who liked having him around to help fix things but then she grew paranoid because of coming down with Lewy body dementia. You know, the disease that drove Robin Williams to commit suicide (I think there’s a link to high IQ; my grandma was even a Mensa member like him). So she wouldn’t let him take us to visit when we went on pass with him from the orphanage so he had to take us to other places that the orphanage didn’t approve of so that they took away his visitation rights and he couldn’t afford a lawyer and that’s how I got estranged enough from my dad that I was willing to disown my parents to get adopted by a white trashy slavedriver who told me things about my dad that she heard from the social workers, that he wanted nothing to do with us anymore when that was far from the case. And later on from what he told me his mom kicked him out of the house altogether. Now if he got the SSI money from my sister and I instead of the white trash that was using us as cash cows then maybe he would have even been able to afford a place for us. Anyway he was a sugar addict as well as an alcoholic and became a diabetic later on and had a stroke which is why my twin sister is still being held hostage by the white trash (she’s a lower functioning autistic). And he drank himself to death and lost his house and I had to go to a group home for retards until my SSI got approved while he spent all his money keeping his motorcycles in storage even though he would never ride them again and died seven years later, his crazy sister probably sold the bikes and spent the money on something stupid or extravagant, but I haven’t kept in touch as I’ve had a Facebook phobia for the past several years.

And look at me. I don’t drink alcohol. I don’t date shady guys, or really any guys at all or girls for that matter as I’m asexual. All I want to do is study math and physics all day which I can’t do without ADHD medication and even then I often get hooked on studying other topics. Yet I’m 33 and only just gotten into a real college (couldn’t attend during the pandemic but I’m trying to get the paperwork done to go back this April). You see this is what happens when your abusive white trash foster parent doesn’t let you apply to go to a real college and can’t even keep you at the same high school for 3-4 years because of going broke from buying a property and moving upstate and so they have to move across the country to buy some cheap derelict house less than 100 miles from the future chemical disaster train wreck. Had to call Adult Protective Services just to make her let me go to college, 2 years after I graduated high school which were boring years where she didn’t let me do anything but watch TV during a time when what few shows I liked had all gotten cancelled. One time she let me go to the public library and check out some books - I got one on vector calculus, one on molecular spectroscopy, and one on nuclear physics, read as much as I could in 2 weeks and understood it too - then got told I wasn’t allowed to check out those books anymore. Oh and the only college she let me go to was a crappy community college that didn’t even have calculus classes and their chemistry class was a joke. A year later I was in another community college while living with my dad. A better one but I was getting bad grades even though it should have been easy as I didn’t understand my own learning style required me to stay at home and study on my own and not listen to the teacher and also I needed to be on meds... was stressed out about transcripts taking too long to arrive so that I would not have been able to transfer the next year, at least not the easy way... and long story short I ended up in the nuthouse for a couple of days. Went to another community college 3 years later after getting on the right meds, decided not to major in math or physics because those classes aren’t available online and I had studied everything they offered at the library by then anyway. I failed a couple of classes there because of being too busy forcing myself to study math and physics on my own time. Finally I got out of the Kafkaesque roach motel, transferred under the philosophy major although I plan on pestering some professors into letting me challenge more advanced math courses (so far I only got to do one on differential geometry, and I passed but with a low grade because they grade on homework and I can’t learn it for the test if my brain is cluttered with worrying about getting it done for a deadline so I had to forget about deadlines and do the homework without turning it in... I thought universities weren’t supposed to grade homework, it’s like a cheap way of giving extra points to the dumb kids or something. They also let them use a cheat sheet for formulas on the test which I don’t even need.

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You are mostly right. Heritability isn't an issue though, regression to the mean happens both ways. And schooling has largely been successful at getting high iq people employed in complex fields.

Regardless of that nothing beats brain draining your competition.

Neet welfare is low priority. I reccomend going in the trades, it pays well, in demand, you feel fit and in time it fixes the neet part.

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I loved this one, guess why, cough, cough.

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Remember the movies with the smart and dumb looser bad guy duos? Being smart and poor is not some new thing! This article is great, but embedded in it was a presumption that high IQ is some kind of value trait. It may be, but may be only on the same level as strong, or tall, or handsome.

As we all know from the same movies, its the guy with the whole package that becomes the hero!

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There are plenty of high-IQ disagreeable spergs in fiction. Like Sherlock Holmes, and any subsequent character that resembles him. (Gregory House, Bruce Wayne, Hermione Granger.)

But they have advantages most IRL high-IQ disagreeable spergs don't. Namely, a lot more luck, much better connections, much better looks, and in Batman's case, far superior physical fitness. We need to cultivate a better path for those who don't draw such a good hand in life, yet we actively make everything worse because the vast majority of our society still sees the acknowledgement of genetics in shaping personality and its unequal distribution in populations, even on the right, as intolerably vulgar.

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"The report also warns against a 'naive meritocracy' which often fails 'to give honors and rewards to the most competent people.' A scholarly paper by economist James Heckman, makes the point that 'personality plays a much bigger role in separating those with high and low income', and found 'financial success was correlated with conscientiousness, a personality trait marked by diligence, perseverance and self-discipline.'"

Truth ends up being the path of least resistance (maintaining lies is a lot of work) and trust a big time/effort saver so a society that exclusively rewards efforting like diligence, perseverance, and self-discipline may paradoxically be selecting against truth-seeking and trust-building.

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I forget who said it, but there is a pattern of Third World countries building university systems post-WWII and then having leftist revolutions no long after because there weren't enough jobs for them, the education system expanded faster than the economy.

Didn't know that the Post Office used to soak some of these men up. A solution that might work would be for someone like a Trump to wink-wink promise every qualified man who works for his campaign a federal job. It would kill a few of birds with one stone, including improving from his 2020 campaign's horrendous operation.

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There's not a chance in hell DJT would do this. One of his last acts in office, thankfully overturned by Biden, was to create an executive order to abolish the merit-based protection of tens of thousands of civil-servive jobs to make it easier to install political loyalists. An act which he vowed to revive, which was echoed by DeSantis, Pompeo, and Cruz:

https://www.citizensforethics.org/news/analysis/faq-the-conservative-attack-on-the-merit-based-civil-service/

DJT also didn't hesitate for a second to throw Charlie Kirk under the bus when he attacked MLK and the Civil Rights Act. Because both those things are popular to the point of being our national religion, and Charlie Kirk is just some dork in a suit. Literally all DJT cares about is being popular, not paying for anything, and staying out of prison, so he'll never support something as unpopular as hereditarianism, even if he genuinely believes in any of it.

Contra what pretty much everybody else on the left and right seems to think, the cause of promoting acceptance of HBD has been dealt a tremendous blow by the rise of DJT. To the extent the public's even aware of it, which is still marginal, they associate it entirely with disreputable cranks at best, and outright racists at worst. But with the rise of DJT making racism the single most salient issue in the Anglosphere discourse, and arguably the entire Occidental discourse, anything that can remotely be called racist, even if it's as minor as a voice actor playing a character of a different race from themselves in a cartoon or videogame, is now more radioactive than such has ever been in the entire history of Anglo civilization. Since, as mentioned, all DJT cares about is popularity, he'll never support anything that can be deemed racist unless said thing already has widespread poular support. So we have the worst of both worlds: a former and likely future president whose very presence makes our needed rasing of awareness and implementation of reforms both less popular abd less likely to occur.

We have to write off at least the next eight years as far as top-down action from the feds goes. As bad as things are now, they'll likely only get worse.

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I hope DJT actually abolishes affirmative action by executive order. He might not. He might say look the blacks love me no one love the blacks more than Donald J Trump.

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