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The pagans had the gods represent the various aspects of the psyche. Dionysus was only one aspect, and a very important one. But, there was also Apollo who would be his opposite. There's the idea that the Greek gods were actually based on real people, with stories combining more than one human into a god, who had lived in prehistoric times. The retelling of the stories by poets, artists, minstrels or Dionysian choir would therefore be based on centuries of human experience condensed into a particular god, or, as Jung would put it, archetype.

These people were also living in a time before Christianity separated spirit from the flesh. Humans, even the Greeks, could not comprehend any spiritual concept without a god or a daimon associated with it and a story to describe the feeling brought about by the manifestation of the god. You wouldn't read a book to make the god or daimon manifest him or her self. You had to mimic an aspect of, or make some kind of offering to, the god in order for the god to manifest or for a sybil (usually high on drugs) to pronounce and priests to interpret.

The point is, it, the Dionysian release, wasn't done in order to make people equal which is what I'm sensing in your preoccupation with incels, or whoever is supposed to do what to each other. The ancients wouldn't imagine that anyone has a right to do or have anything at all. They didn't have the concept of human rights and would have thought it absurd.

The problem with the late 19th, early 20th century spiritualists is that they were raised in the post-Christian world and their brains were programmed by modern abstractions, such as rights and so forth, and were trying to recreate the pre-Christian non-abstracted world. But, they, like us, cannot return to the old ways of thinking. Or rather, you have to move with the gods and heroes in ways that I'm not sure you have considered. But I appreciate your efforts here.

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superb!

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