Why Rightoids Are Wrong About The Left Normalizing P-dophilia
"Pedocons vs. Age Gap Libs"
Smearing someone as a “pedo” can be similar to calling someone a racist as a way to intimidate a political opponent by destroying their reputation. It's very similar to calling one’s political opponent racist discourse but instead "my opponents are the real pedos." The peak normie is someone who feels the need to signal morally against both White Supremacy/racism and pedos, as twin secular demons. You saw this with Oprah where she is very woke on race but more conservative when addressing sexual predators.
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The Right uses groomer or pedo allegations against the trans agenda and drag queen story hour, as part of some vast sinister liberal agenda to normalize p-dophilia. While there are some genuinely pro-p-dophilia types on the Left, I think they are quite fringe (eg. basement-dwelling Antifa, ex-cons, crackpot professors, and certain radical LGBTQ activists). The overwhelming majority of ordinary liberals are not at all sympathetic to p-dophilia. For instance, you heard Democrat pundits taking pride in the fact that Kamala Harris was a sex crimes prosecutor. Even if QAnon is right about elites being involved in pedophilia, why would they want to normalize that for the masses, as elites and intelligence agencies can use it as political blackmail.
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In contrast, The Left uses the sex predator or pedo smear against their adversaries on the Right, like with Trump’s alleged ties to Epstein, and Matt Gaetz with the “pedocon” meme. I remember how much of the original manosphere talked about wanting a lower age of consent but then as soon as Trump was elected, these same guys went full QAnon. Even today, you have dissident right figure, Nick Fuentes, talking about wanting to marry a 16 year old and the more anti-social of the right lusting after Donald Trump’s granddaughter, Kai Trump, before she turned 18, with more respectable conservatives coming in to morally police them. Despite Nick Fuentes and his Groypers LARPing as American Nationalist Trad Caths, they reflect the more nihilistic 4chan culture in which both extreme racism and sexual perversion are prevalent. An online survey by sex researcher, Aella, found that rightwingers have slightly higher rates of both p-dophilia and eph-bophilia. Regardless, I don’t think the divide is left vs right but rather normie vs anti-social.
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The rightwing is at odds with normies on many issue but anti-pedo signaling and cracking down hard on sex crimes is one issue where the Right has commonality with normies, and especially women, who might otherwise view rightwing stances on issues like immigration as mean spirited. Women are more reactive to moral hysterias relating to sexual issues, crime victims, and especially protecting children.
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I don’t see any danger in society becoming more permissive toward p-dophiles or even eph-bophiles, considering how appalled the masses are. The overall trend has been more states raising their ages of consent to 18. Conservatives don’t realize that a movie like Pretty Baby from 1978 could not get made today. In the late 1990s, there was a controversy about Barnes & Nobles selling art n-de photography books by controversial photographers, Jock Sturges and David Hamilton, featuring minors, which is unfathomable today. Howard Stern would get canceled today for when he used to do countdowns for when celebrities, like the Olsen Twins, turned 18.
There was a huge backlash against the push to normalize p-dophilia in the 70s. The peak of the sex predator hysteria from the 90s, and 00s, was a reaction to the accesses of the sexual revolution, the 70s/80s crime wave, and boomers starting families and moving to the suburbs, seeking to create a safe sanitized environment for their children. Overall, Americans are far more obsessed with p-dophilia than other nations.
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The p-dophile hysteria has its origins in the Victorian Cult of the Child and the Progressive Era. It was the Yankee Puritan descendants who lobbied for a higher age of consent on egalitarian grounds while the more inegalitarian South was fine with adult men marrying young teens. A South Carolina ballot measure to raise the age of consent to 16 from 14 in 2008 passed by only 5 percentage points with the strongest support from middle to upper middle class White suburban areas while losing in rural redneck and Black areas.
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The feminist moral hysteria over age-gap relationships between consenting adults is a far stronger force on the Left and in society at large. Neurotic Millennial women raised on stranger danger channeled that into the Me Too movement regarding adult relations. The Me Too movement created an environment where all men are treated as potential predators causing many young men to avoid even approaching women. Me Too feminism transferred blame for sexual abuse of elite men in Hollywood to average guys. Not to mention that many Me Too feminists took a “believe all victims” approach to “he said, she said” cases of rape allegations, where there is no strong forensic evidence, which is abhorrent to the principle of due process. This is showing up in legislation with the UK criminalizing persistent staring at people in public. I would not be surprised if a female Democratic politician proposes Romeo & Juliet laws for adults with at least 21 and perhaps even 25 as the unlimited age of consent.
Contrary to conservative's’ belief that liberals desire softer penalties for sex offenders, Aaron Sibarium reported in The Free Press that “Progressive lawyers have become more determined to turn a blind eye to certain defendants while cracking down with even greater than usual fervor on certain crimes. “The same people who are anti-incarceration for some defendants will support life plus cancer for others.” The Free Press quoted Scott Greenfield, a criminal-defense attorney in New York, that “Good people—which in practice means blacks and Hispanics, regardless of what they did—should be free. Bad people—which in practice means sex offenders and financial criminals—should go to jail.”
If the Left believes that non-White crime is caused by poverty or racism, then White criminals must be especially heinous. The show Law & Order would often depict sex offenders as uniquely heinous but also mostly White. At the same time, Black and Hispanic criminal suspects were more portrayed as victims of poverty. Netflix’s Dahmer series depicts the true story of a judge who granted Jeffrey Dahmer a lenient sentence for a sex crime and frames it as a case of White privilege, as Dahmer’s victim was non-White. While liberal judges, like that judge in Dahmer, have handed out lenient sentences to sex offenders, ironically this won’t be the case when Zoomer and Millennial girl bosses, who obsess over age gaps, become judges and prosecutors.
The canard that White men are more likely to be p-dophiles is often used as a comeback by leftists and non-Whites when pointing out racial crime stats. Since sex crimes are viewed as far worse than other crimes, the false canard that Whites are more likely to be sexual offenders is especially harmful. Same with other false canards that Whites are more likely to be serial killers, school shooters, and incels. An article on the lefty site, Counterpunch, admitted that “about half of sex offenders are White, and 27% are Black, then higher for forcible rape and cases involving strangers, though share for internet sex crimes is closer to general population.” However, the article claims that Blacks have higher rates of sex offenses due to unfairness in the judicial system. The rate of p-dophilia are likely similar among races but Blacks have higher rates of violent sexual offenses due to worse impulse control and higher testosterone. Not to mention that there are a lot of unreported sexual offenses among illegal immigrants. However, Whites might be more represented among sexual offenses compared to other violent crimes, like murder, assault, or armed robbery.
The paranoia that the average middle class guy might a potential pedo is a sign of a low trust society and has been used to justify atomization and bureaucratic/managerial “long house” control over society in the same way that Nazis/KKK/slavery, were used to justify open borders and the erasure of European identity. It is also an alliance between women and more established married men to scrutinize unattached low status men. The question is how much has the pedo hysteria actually prevented abuse, and if so, is that trade off worth it for a more atomized society?
Online predator poachers and the show To Catch a Predator were so performative in how they would often humiliate mentally ill loner nerds. Not to mention going after a 20 year old guy chatting up a 17 year old who was actually a 25 year old. The stereotype of pedos being weirdo loners relates to how incels often get accused of being pedos, as if being linked to school shooters was not bad enough. For instance, a Report by the Centre For Countering Digital Hate, which is extremely ideologically biased, alleged that about half of incels support p-dophilia. There is no evidence that incels are more likely to commit sex crimes, considering that they are so high in inhabitation. Many of the most dangerous sex offenders are more macho thuggish types or charismatic neurotypicals who gain the trust of their victims. The idea that men who are less masculine are also morally depraved fits a good narrative for ironically both man hating feminists and more macho signaling rightwing chuds.
Pred poachers have many similarities to Antifa/anti-racists, in that they are people with authoritarian personality types who hide behind a moral cause. They’re motivated by narcissism, attention seeking, and a sadistic pleasure in wanting to humiliate people. However, these pred poachers do sometimes catch some genuinely heinous people, alongside all the autistic incel loners, which muddies the waters.
There is a trope of a sex offender possible getting gang raped in prison, a barbaric eye for an eye form of justice. Obviously it is disgusting to give any moral authority to the absolute most depraved and thuggish people of society, and an anti-rape/abuse stance should be consistent. There is hypocrisy to prison morality/justice in that a guy who kills someone while committing an armed robbery and orphans their children is lauded as a hardcore OG while a loner nerd caught up in an online predator sting or a pretty boy with statutory rape charges is a “chomo who deserves to get his wig split and cheeks busted in.”
While an eph-bophile is someone who has a preference for teenagers over adults, normal healthy adult males have some degree of attraction to teenagers slightly below the age of consent. Just not strong enough for them to break the law. It is fine if society decides to keep the age of consent at 18, but I hate how people have to virtue signal that if you find anyone a week shy of turning 18 attractive, you’re a monster. 17 is not that different from 18 biologically and morally but society has to draw the legal line somewhere. Aella’s survey on the taboo of various sexual f-tishes found that attraction to teenagers under the age of 18 is one of the few things that is both very common and very taboo. Eph-bophilia should be treated as different from pedophilia but that does not mean it should be totally tolerated either.
source: Aella’s Substack
Sexual paraphilias are often caused by trauma, with p-dophiles frequently victims of childhood abuse themselves while eph-bophilia is often a reaction to adolescent trauma. There is also a theory that p-dophilia is caused by brain damage while in the womb. However, eph-bophiles, like Jeffrey Epstein, are guys who are bored with having unlimited access to regular sex with adult women and likely also have psychopathic traits. Regular men might have some of those feelings, but they are able to suppress them by adopting a disgust mechanism in response to societal conditioning, thus don’t act on it. In contrast, men with more psychopathic tendencies don’t have those moral suppression mechanisms, though social isolation can also play a role.
The defense of “ethical” or non offending p-dophiles, those who remain celibate and don’t act on their desires, or date adults, is that they aren’t harming anyone by just existing. There is also a pro-child safety argument that if a person can openly identity as a p-dophile without stigma, then there can be some agreement that they are never to be around children unsupervised, and it makes it easier for them to get psychiatric help. However, the counter argument is that this is a slippery slope or hidden strategy to get more lenient treatment of p-dophiles. Not to mention that it also takes an idealistic assumption that these people all have good impulse control in such a low trust society.
Sexual predators are a real problem and danger and there are certain sex crime so heinous that warrant life imprisonment. However, I see the issue exploited like anti-racism with a lack of intelligence, thoughtfulness, and nuance. Moral hysterias will always get politically exploited to take away freedom, exploiting a healthy biological imperative to want to protect one’s family from harm. Like racism, the term p-dophile becomes meaningless when it is overused, such as against a 30 or 40 year old man desiring 18 year old women.
Because human nature is tribal, society needs certain groups as villains or scapegoats and p-dophiles are an easy group to hate. People want simplistic answers that are easy to emotionally process. Nuance is needed to combat the QAnon-ification of the Right and the feminist age gap hysteria of the Left. Regardless, the expected response to this article will likely be there is no nuance, the only solution is the “wood chipper.”
So stupid we're focusing in age of consent, pdfs and trans. We haven't even first eradicated the cancer of feminism, which is certainly a main factor causing all this nihilism and degeneration. What about the fucking economy? People's attention span have left the chat.
Fantastic.